the dow, still love the dow today. we'll be back tonight, 7 eastern,. >> this i i am peeral attitude n the part of the administration and you're the most recent example of that imperialism is disgusting. >> we're talking about general impacts. >> they knew the general i am zacks we've been talking about reduction and available controller hours of 10% for months. >> you didn't tell them which airports, which airlines. >> we told them they should expect significant impacts as major facilities. >> the faa chief under fire for flyers getting hot under the collar. welcome, i'm neil cavuto, and to

hear some republicans tell us, the sequestration blame doesn't fly. airlines are now complaining. chicago o'hare on the big frustration and still the big wait, huh? >> nationwide, 2,623 flights delayed so far today. that's according to the flight tracking service flight aware. while many of those were due to weather, the majority of them are considered to be fallout from the sequestration cuts. this morning 45 minute delays in los angeles. 30 minutes in chicago. you can see we're in a afternoon lull but we spoke to passengers flying across the country and experiencing setbacks firsthand. >> you have a schedule you have to keep on, get your connecting flight. i think it's rotten we're paying for the sequester. >> it's an inappropriate area to

cut. travel is extremely important to the american economy on multiple levels and time is money. >> i'm worried about the amount of travel i have to do and delays and having to plan ahead for delays. so we'll have to see what happens. hopefully this will be resolved quickly. >> those slight delays are only expected to get worse in the coming days. at o'hare, the faa is considering closing one of two control towers, meaning fewer flights landing and taking off and delays would domino to airports across the. >> neil: thank you. welcome aboard. good to have you. in the meantime, why cut controllers when there's so much more to cut. mark murphy says the president was offered discretion to cut where he saw fit. bottom line, they are creating fits. and i don't see it easing.

>> the public's disgusted and they'll get more disgusts because if it continues, come summer when the busy travel season hits, people will choose not to travel. i don't know what the president is thinking. congress is giving him discretion, take it to the faa and tell them it's a 4% cut. you're going back to what? 2010 levels. what business hasn't had to go back to some previous level? we're talking about 4%. so 4% is getting cut yet 40% of planes have the chance to be canceled or delayed? something doesn't smell right. i think its the administration and their attitude of making customers feel the pain which will have repercussions through the economy. they'll blame the republicans. >> neil: whether they are or not, the airlines are asking for reprieve on the furloughs, layoffs, whatever you call them, and a number of republicans are getting nervous, urging a 30-day

freeze. where do you think this is going? >> i think if it continues you're going to have a terrible travel summer. people are going to need to get to the airport early. >> neil: how early? what's the normal, two hours for domestic. >> shepard: yeah, get there ahead of time, try to catch an early flight. get on the first flight out in the morning. don't wait and go on the late afternoon flight because you might not get out. >> neil: everything will be staggered. >> stacked up. if you're on the first flight, you have a better chance of getting out. you have to look. take business travelers, they might have connections. with fewer carriers controlling the market and fewer nonstop flights from secondary markets, connections are key. imagine your delayed, you miss the correction -- connection and you're overnighting in chicago instead of sue city. >> governor rick scott is slamming the game both parties

are playing and the faa waiting around. governor, spell out how bad it's getting for florida. >> look, we're a tourism state. a million jobs are tied to tourism. we have four major hubs, the gateway to latin america. monday our ft. lauderdale airport in orlando, 50% of flights were delayed. it will impact jobs right when we're having a turnaround in the economy. this will have a -- we'll have a difficult time with this. it's ridiculous they can't find other ways to cut, to do the right thing torques make sure we -- to make sure we grow jobs. we're below the national average on unemployment. >> neil: are you hearing from the popular tour sites within your state, orlando, walt disney world or seaworld or universal or miami that its effected hotel

bookings, resorts, has it gotten to that stage? >> we're in day four and people are frustrated with the delays. my concern is they'll decide not to -- to book a flight to florida. we have a million jobs in our state tied to tourism. we have a lot of business here too. i just want to keep our economy going. look, when i came into i officei reduced the budget. we did it with common sense solutions. we didn't take a meat cleaver to it or adversely impact jobs. we did the right thing and our economy is booming. >> neil: the sequestration cuts, both parties agree, weren't ideal. republicans are saying in retrospect, they beat no cuts at all so they're saying these are arbitrary, fickle, unwieldy but beat having not cut anything. what do you say? >> look, i had to cut my budget

the first year, $3.7 million but i used common sense. i didn't do things that adversely impact jobs like this will in our state. this is ridiculous what they're doing. they had other ways to cut this. i'm concerned about jobs in our state right when we have dramatically had a turn in our economy. we're -- neil: you don't buy the administration touche. you're good plugging your state. back to the issue, governor, do you think the administration is then not telling the truth when it says that it didn't have the type of choice and the range and latitude in making cuts that you say that it pronounced it would be going after -- it didn't want to but it would go after flight controllers and the like and that this was coming down the pike, and no one listened? >> what i have been told is they had over $2 billion of other cuts to make that would not have impacted air controllers. this is going back to 2010, the size of the faa budget. this appears to be for some

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>> neil: now we know cameras, a lot of cameras, got 'em. get ready for more. not bad guys but more cameras soon. the new york police commissioner urging hundreds if for the thousands more on every street corner in and out of new york city but he isn't stopping there. judge napolitano is saying why

don't you stop there. judge, you're worried where this leads. >> i'm worried this could lead to the environment of east germany where as you may recall, it became a crime for failure to report a crime. in fact that protection, failure to report a crime, was the most frequently prosecuted crime. if you're caught looking the other way, you could be prosecuted for looking the other way. i don't think anybody wants that kind of society here. i also worry the destruction of privacy in public -- face it, it's virtually destroyed, ray kelly's heart is in the right place. he's the greatest police commissioner the city's had, maybe the best in the country. he's a lawyer and understands the constitution but if we have cameras more than now so everywhere we go the government can watch us, it will stifle the

breathing room freedom of expression requires. >> neil: does it affect you when you caulk down the street? i see them everywhere. i'm almost used to it. >> it will effect you when they turn the microphones on. most cameras are equipped with microphones so police can listen as well as watch. when they say cavuto, don't go into the street, there's a car coming or likely for you, cavuto, put away that twinkery. >> or go out in the street. when -- but if you're a good guy, you shouldn't have to worry. >> yes you should. who wants the government telling us what to do. that's not the america we fought for. if the cameras get beyond that and into our private homes, the totalitarian state will be here. >> neil: it's a fine line i addressed with senator rand paul on "fox business." i want you to react to this. rand paul on the subject. >> we shouldn't be willy-nilly looking into everyone's backyard

but if there's a killer on the loose in a neighborhood, i'm not against drones use today search them out, heat-seeking devices used. i'm for law enforcement but not -- >> he extended that to someone robbing a liquor store for 50 bucks. >> he did. if he had said as i think he intended to, you called me to tell me about this. i spoke with him this morning. if he had said someone's coming out of a liquor store with a gun and shooting it, then that person is fair game for anyone at whom he's shooting. police can use deadly force. >> neil: does that include the use of a drone? >> in the senator's view, the fill burst was against using drones for targeted assassinations. he has no problem with police using technology to fight crime. in my view, i don't want 30,000

drones flying in my face. where did i get that number. the air force says in fewer than 20 years 30,000 drones will be flying in the country. cameras on every street corner and -- >> we're doing this to keep you safe or safer. you have nothing to worry about. you're a judge, upstanding human being, don't worry, this is meant to target people to do something in fairs. >> when -- nefarious. >> when the government is in your face, you can't be free. imagine jefferson with the photo cameras watching him or a drone in his face. >> neil: especially knowing his personal habits. >> i picked him intentionally. >> neil: thank you, judge. very much. more bs from the dhs, how one republican describes janet napolitano of the security handling of the boston terror

mess. what they want to know is how the older brother fell through high security cracks and why even after tamerlan tsarnaev was given a thumb's up, local officials in boston were never given a heads-up. to catherine herridge on this. >> the secretary of homeland security says neither of the suspects had negative information thousand tamerlan was the suspect of a fbi investigation. >> they are vetted from the time they apply to the time between when they're told they're going to be a citizen and they actually take the oath at a ceremony. we're continually revetting, going back and checking, checking, checking. in this instance, in boston, the systems contained no derogatory information as to either brother. >> "the associated press" reports based on interviews with one family member, the older brother fell under the influence

of a muslim convert named mischa and he dropped boxing and cut off contact with family members. we have not independently confirmed that but we have learned that a new joint intelligence bulletin from homeland security and the fbi was sent to local, state law enforcement to update them concluding the bombs relied on toy car components for detonation. the bulletin says the bombs used in explosive blend identical to what is found in fireworks. fox news confirmed the older brother bought fireworks in february from the company in new hampshire and asked for high-powered explosives. >> neil: thank you very much. did the work of these two just

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>> neil: after the bombing now the rethinking. suddenly an immigration reform plan that looked ready for takeoff looks all but off. marco rubio says that would be a shame because the deal he and the gang of eight pounded out the problems and criticisms illegal immigration folks had been railing against since boston. the senator joins us now. very good to have you. >> thank you. >> neil: what comes back, and i talked to a few of them, i'll replay the comments, is the enforcement provision and further, cracking down on the bad guys who might already be

here. what are you saying? >> first of all the bill was never designed as a take it or leave it. it's a starting point. the fundamental challenge we have is no one believes this administration is serious about enforcing laws. if people thought the administration was serious about immigration laws the debate would be simple. we need to guarantee the law will be enforced and border secured. i'm saying this bill is a starting point for the discussion. if somebody out there or my colleagues have an idea about thousand guarantee the law's enforced, we're open to that and hopefully that's what we will get from the process we'll undergo. we think we can build on it. >> neil: are you worried post boston, though, that it's going to make it tougher? >> listen, boston exposes flaws in the system and we should address that in this bill.

of course. that's one of the things the bill does, requires people illegally here to undergo a background check and national security check and maybe that should be expanded for everybody. we're open to those things. why have a tragedy happen in boston, which is horrible, but we need to learn from it. why not applied the lessons whether in this bill or another bill. >> neil: do you think they've piled on too much to this bill hoping it would address not only the illegals here but they want to expand, or some do, the legals here or those granted visas or citizen citizenship as in the case of the brothers. that gets into another area beyond what you were trying to do with the package. >> first of all we have 1 million people a year coming permanently and legally. these two came as children. if something went wrong in the process, the asylum process, we

should fix it. we're in the process of learning and applying -- >> neil: don't you think that will slow it down saying if we could to go slower and examine everyone here, it will take longer than you planned? >> you mean the bill or the process for allowing people in? >> i mean both. >> for the bill, offa problem with that. i never said it has to be done quickly. the country has struggled three decades. let's do it right. i want this to be a significant process. and the senate, they haven't even starting working on it in the committee. as far as the immigration process, first and foremost it must be good for america. if there's ways to improve it, we should do it. i think that having 11 million people here illegally, not knowing i why there here is not

good. say it falls apart. then we're stuck with what we have now. i'm not sure who benefits but it isn't america. >> neil: when you look at what has happened post boston, senator, there's been this sort of collective angst in washington, how to address future bostons, up our security, increase our drones. senator rand paul was dialing back to me the thrust of hisit'o use this technology to go after bad guys but limit it on good guys. that i understood but it seemed to send a mixed message to folks, that republicans are either for or against these things. where do you stand? >> first of all this is the -- just like after 9/11, america hasn't been the same. it won't be after boston. we have terrorist cells planning to attack us but we're finding

and learning about homegrown elements. people born and raised here and people brought her at children that have been radicalized on the internet. we have to deal with that reality as well. our national -- my problem with the administration is they refuse to acknowledge the existence of this terrorism. they do everything they can to avoid calling it terrorism. that's why you have the situation with benghazi, irrespective if these guys met with extremist they were radicalized. this is the face of terrorism against the united states and we have to have security systems that recognize and deal with that. the number one job of the federal government is secure our national security. >> neil: i can understand that and i understood what senator rand paul was telling me but you can't filibuster because it's too intrusive then use the technology when warranted.

>> first of all, i think the problem with the administration and the fill burst buster, and i disagreed with his on the filibuster but they dismissed him as if it's a silly question. he has a right to ask a question and eric holder and the administration refused to answer. they finally did but should have at the front end. as far as drones, i'm concerned about our civil liberties and we should protect them. we have to understand our enemies are looking for american citizens to recruit or radicalize because they believettes easy to carry out attacks. i don't want to abandon our civil liberties. we should protect them. that's what the fight is about but we have to be smart about understanding that terrorists will exploit that. it's a difficult balance, something we have to struggle with in public policy but we better get it figured out because the problem now is this is going to be the emerging,

growing threat and the truth is, when you get your hands on a terrorist, the first thing you want to know is intelligence. who is working with you, what things did you have planned, what plots are out there? that's more important than laying evidence for a conviction down the road. you want to gather intelligence to save lives and disrupt future attacks. >> neil: dzhokhar tsarnaev is going to be tried in the u.s. courts. >> that's a misunderstanding that he shouldn't be tried in civilian court. the issue is on the front end. when you get your hands on a terrorist, if you mirandize him he's going to stop talking, stop giving information. if he a part of a broader plot, you won't find out and disrupt it. you want to be able to find out immediately who are you working with, what or plans are out there. you want to prevent future attacks. then you want to lay groundwork

for a conviction. i think you can do both. they have video evidence, they have more than enough evidence to convict them with or without a confession. we need to know who our working with, are there other bombs or other attacks planned. that's different from arresting a bank robber. >> neil: senator john mccain and lindsay graham say he should be treated as an enemy combatant with more flexibility and more likelihood you're going to get results from that than a guy exploiting our legal system. what do you think of that? >> you can try an enemy combatant in u.s. federal court. the issue is not where you try him, it's how you gather evidence at the front. an enemy combatant tant because he's involved in a struggle against the united states, you don't have to mirandize him or give him a lawyer. you can gather intelligence and prevent them from carrying out other attacks. at some point they wind up in the court system and there will be a conviction.

that's important but at the front end, the purpose of the enemy combatant debate is not avoid the courtroom. it's with regards to people here already carrying out attacks on u.s. territory, gather intelligence when you arrest them. who are you working with and who were you plotting other attacks with? it's not necessarily about creating a record for conviction. you can do both. >> neil: senator, there are some getting leery of all the muslim students in america, bob beckel among those saying stop grants visas, others speaking about slowing down the number getting into the country. what do you think? >> we need to be open to changes that provide more security. it's important to under -- i don't like profiling anybody or singling or generally leading, on the other hand student advises are something this country does because it's in our

national interest but you don't have a right to a student visa. i'm not prepared to take a firm position on restriction. i want to learn about what might have worked to prevent past attacks. some of the 9/11 attackers were on student visas and they overstayed. if we have the tracking system i'm calling for we would have known. we don't know who the over stays are. we know when they come in but we don't know if they left. that's why i want to see reform. >> neil: senator rube marco rubio. >> did political correctness get in the way of tracking down the boston bombers. the report raising a red flag after this. ♪

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>> neil: the fbi got the bad guys but does it risk being too nice. growing criticism the fbi got it right catching the terrorist but is it too politically correct in going after other would be terrorists. patrick o'toole thinks so especially if the conciliatory tone toward muslim extremists. you argue it sends the wrong message. >> well this is another example of catastrophic failure by the fbi where they had subjects on

the radar and failed a good example is major hassan with the fbi aware of emails and anwar al awlaki and fbi headquarters stopped that investigation. >> neil: why do you think they did in those cases? because they didn't want to typecast? because they were trying to be politically correct? >> exactly. we know from the webster report on the fort hood shootings they're talking about religious stuff so we can't get into it. and the conclusion of the webster report was it was political correctness and in fact the fbi has done nothing to correct those systems that keep having these incidents recur. >> neil: what should they say, put out an edict, call it what it is, muslim extremists, how

should they go about chasing this? >> within the past couple years they've purged all counterterrorism training materials of any mention of radical islam. they need to begin to roll that back. secondly. >> neil: say it for what it is, looking at radical islamist. >> yes. look, these -- i'm not saying we need to look at or throw, you know, aspersions over the entire muslim community. we know which mosques are rolling out terrorists like the mosque in cambridge. there were two other terrorists that came out of this mosque. isso we know where to look and empowering the local agents who are on the ground to be able to look to wherever the facts lead them, currently that's not going on. >> neil: patrick, thank you very much. very good having you. >> thank you. >> neil: well, do any of you

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the healthcare law is ma tsa sighing and the turrum is spreading. it will save them a lot of money but it will cause all federal taxpayers -- cost federal taxpayers more. ben warned the president it would cost through the you know what. the doctor didn't say that. i did but the good doctor is here to make sense of it. doctor, this thing is getting pricier by the day. the states are saying we'll take 'em on but you feds pay the bill. >> this is not unexpected. this is only the tip of the iceberg. there are so many things in there that will continue to be revealed. and you know, the big problem here is that thege for part timw or those working under 29.5

hours and extending it to all workers and states drop the plan in favor of the federal plan. in other words, this is where this is heading, toward a single payer system and that's the bottom line. >> whether that was the master plan, it certainly is the final effect. and i wish people would start talking about some of the other ways that we could fix this. i've gotten so many proposals from people all over the country. some are really good proposals, these are smart people. if we would take advantage of what we have rather than taking the attitude its my way and the only way, we could make some progress. it's not a democrat or republican thing, a liberal or con active thing. we all need good healthcare. >> neil: but it's costly when he want to take -- you want to take prohibit active costs out.

the medical device prompting number of democrats and republicans to say let's remove this. you have to get the money somewhere else to pay for all of this. where do you think that's going to come from? >> more taxes. there are so many hidden taxes in the affordable healthcare bill, which is a strange name, that we all are going to be paying. you know, initially, just the rich. then the semi-rich. then the nonrich. you know, the money has to come from someplace. what happens when the government grows to this size -- this is what the founding fathers warned us against. >> neil: in other words, the more you want, the more you have to pay and they tapped the rich and it's not enough to pay the bills. so how far down the so-called food chain do you see this going? >> obviously it's going to affect everyone eventually. also you have to remember that when you affect one segment of the population, we don't live in

isolation, every segment will be affected. so the people who create jobs, if you're hurting them, they're not going to create as many jobs. on and on it goes. it's a continuum. we're all in the same boat. we need to be talking about things that work for everybody in an efficient way. >> neil: a lot of folks want you to run for president. i'm sure you have heard that. do you want to run for president? >> i have no desire to get into that quagmire, frankly. but i must say, i am besieged by people everywhere i go about this. >> neil: when you are besieged, do you ever entertain it? >> i always say it's in the hands of god. i don't believe he's going to reject our nation just because many want to reject him. >> neil: so that sounds like you would be open to it. >> i'm always open to anything that god wants done. >> neil: doctor, thank you very much.

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>> neil: blame the boston abomination on u.s. domination. i can see a deranged terrorist saying that allegedly but a monitor for the united nations council blaming attacks on america, inserting itself everywhere. you say what? this guy is part of the committee that has that deal? >> well, first of all it's a scandal to be clear. it's important to remember what

he actually said. he quoted from wh awedden and said who whom evil is done do evil in return. he talked about the boston victims as ca naries who have to die. he's a 9/11 conspiracy theorist appointed by the human rights council and given a title of rapporteur on israel and is allowed to do his thing. he's been in place since 2008. >> neil: we're sitting on the human rights council, something george bush didn't want to do. something this president feels to engage is better than not. >> president bush decided not to join the council. the obama administration made it a cornerstone of their foreign policy but you know, richard

falk didn't materialize out of thin air. he's appointed and supported by the human rights council. >> neil: so these views are probably held by other members on the committee. >> the organization of islamic council -- if the obama administration didn't support the council it would be a different situation. >> neil: do you think it knows others on it is on the council shares that view? >> two weeks ago the islamic governments in new york city said -- refused to define terrorism unless there was a exception clause for legitimate struggle. we know what they're about, why are we legitimizing them. richard falk is paid for by american tax dollars, his reports are put on the web and circulated. it's about time we not only call for his removal but stop

legitimating the council and get off. >> neil: if we get off, the administration argument is we can never engage. you say -- >> there are lots of other vehicles for engaging other than human rights council that is fraud fraudulent. >> the secretary general said he went too far. >> they said that over and over, it's not going to happen and even if it did, it was whack-a-mole. somebody else will take his place. >> neil: thank you very much. we'll have more after this. before 36 families could move from shelters into brand-new apartments... before rooftops were transformed into electrical generators... before an abandoned lot in brookly could become a vibrant neighborhood... and before hannah seliem could close her very first door to her very first bedroom... an architect, a developer, and our commercial banker, met over lunch and shared a vision.

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>> neil: finally in today's latest edition of always stay humble company thought it would never have to bother the company is apple. if my dad was alive today he would hear the line he told me a lot. neil, stay humble because in your case it will come in handy. my daughter said in guest he meant for me to keep and at least know in earnest to never get ahead of myself. to never get cocky. to always stay humble. to this day it's one of the qualities i most admire about myself. anyway, enough about me. how this whole apple thing relates back to me, there was a time months ago when apple could go doo no wrong. its trade was trading over 700 bucks a share and everyone wanted a share in the bucks. the company didn't just make money it printed it. billions in cool cash

selling lots of cool gadgets, iphones, ipads, ipods all sold at a premium to customers who said i have got to have it the problem of course with being cool is staying cool and acting cool does not keep you cool. you have to keep doing cool stuff. keep making cool stuff. keep outcooling the other guy's cool stuff. none of this is to say that apple is not a great company, it is. or that it doesn't make a lot of cool cash it does. not as great a company and not as much cash. i say this not just as an apple admirer heses who loves and buys a lot of the stuff but full disclosure apple shareholder for decades. apple's problems creeped up on itself. even after promising to buy back 60 billion bucks of its stock dividends to folks who own the stock. so, apple is owns the stock. company didn't get ahold

own press started believing its own press and that its stuff didn't stink if youful. forgetting what my dad used to call that great ladder in life, neil, he would say, remember the people you pass on the way up the ladder, you will be bumping into them on the way down. i cleaned up his language. anyway, apparently ladders go both ways. one day the world has taken a shine to your apple and the next it's saying you are rotten to the core. think about that. you're still the same person you are still the same company. only now you are a humble person and desperately looking for any company. i guess that's business. i guess that's life. but it's a reminder keep your head small. maybe not physically small. if you were born with a big head, that's impossible. but try to keep your ego in check. again, it's one the great things i have always mastered in my super